Sunday, February 13, 2011

French Revo/ Egypt Rev.


1. Compare / Contrast Louis XVI and Mubarak.
2. In each case, WHY were the people protesting? (Cite primary sources).
3. What role did women play?
4. What concerns are their about the current situation in Egypt? How might they relate to the days following the fall of Louis XVI?
5. How did/are people express(ing) their views?
6. Are the current protests violent?
7. What do people on the ground in Cairo think is going to happen now? (Directly contact reporters and bloggers in Egypt via Twitter during this class period).
8. Based on your study of the French Revolution and your current observations of the situation in Egypt, what do you think are possible outcomes? How are the possible outcomes in Egypt alike or different with outcomes in France -- both in the short and long term.


Sources on French Revolution

Sources on Egypt

Al Jazeera
Al Jazeera Reporters' Twitter feeds:

New York Times
Mubarak Bio:




Twitter Search

Louis XVI-1744-1788

  • Come to office with a huge weight on his shoulders because France was deeply in debt
  • aimed for love by the people and reinstated parliament
  • intellectually acute but indecisive
  • married to Marie Antionette of Austria
  • determined to listen to public opinion
  • Ordered advisor Jean-Frederick Phelypeaux to listen to public opinion
  • hired many different officials who wrongly levied taxes and brought france into panic and depression-Turgot, Maleherbes, Jauques Necker, Charles Alexandre de Calonne, Assembly of Notables,--all failed and Louis lost his absolute ruling
  • recalled Estates General in 1788 for first time since Louis XIII 
  • estates general split into First (Clergy), Second (Nobles), and Third (the rest) estates
  • Estates General took over and refused to take their hat off for Louis so he did for them
  • lost all supporters in french revolution and was executed
  • Good hearted, No self esteem, Shy, Clumsy, A loner, Indecisive, Weak, Misunderstood.

  • Mubarak-1981-2010
  • after assassination for president Sadat
  • Egypt was asked to return to the Arab League with Mubarak after suspension from Sadat
  • In the Gulf war of 1991 and aid in getting iraqies out of Kuwait
  • after war egypt was in about 14 billion dollars of debt (Louis put France into depression)
  •  assassination attempts on Mubarak: 6 (Louis was assassinated)
  • by 1999, put 20,000 people in detention for creating revolutionary organizations (Estates General turning against him)
  • 2004- appointed prime ministers to create a board of optimism 
  • sold shares of most public businesses and the economy in capital of egypt crashed (Louis bought church property with paper money and sold them, skyrocketing inflation.)
  • by emergency law, Mubarak allows for police to violate citizens' property and make unconditioned arrests
  • dictator (Louis was an absolutist)
  • Mubarak did not give permission for the septemeber presidential succession and planned to rewrite a constitution
  • revolution broke out in Cairo and in two weeks Mubarak stepped down (French Revolution)
  • Mubarak and his family left Egypt (Versaille)
Why are People Protesting?
French Revolution- Third estate wanted their rights and the second estate had taken over the king. Third estate became the national assembly and started an uprising of revolution that killed thousands daily. After third estate got locked by king and second estate out of its meeting room, the split began. They wrote a new constitution and began the Oath of the Tennis Court. The radical reformers became overly dominant and strict that they began killing every nonconformer. This was known as the Terror and was run by Robespierre. People were in panic and furry that France was in such debt and the poorest estate had to pay for it.

People in Egypt:
Fighting to get the corrupted ruler out of Egypt. He was a dictator that violated the citizens and dictated them. Egyptions did not want their constitution to be rewritten and they also did not want to be oppressed by a ruler any longer. Mubarak was believed to be a selfish ruler. In hopes of getting the president to step down for the next presidential vote, egyptions engaged in a massive revolution that was efficient within 2 weeks. Egypt wanted peace.!/search/%23egypt

  • Women in the French revolution marched at the March of Versaille asking the the royal family would return to paris
  • Olympe de Gouges wrote Rights of Women as a women's right activist but was executed with Marie Antoinette and Lavoisier as an enemy of the Jacobins. 
  • In Egypt its mostly men, but women are tagging along in supporting the men, running with the riots, helping the injured, and even young girls are protesting with propaganda on the streets
  • no sexual harassment reported since the start of the revolution
  • men saying sorry when they bump into women
  • women protesting were advised to wear two layers of clothes because they wanted to be bold and courageous; the police are notorious for groping and harassing women in Egypt
  • not more gender suppression during revolution
expression of views: in French Revolution it was riots, violence, and protests on the street along with the spreading of pamphlets throughout the country. In Egypt its the same riots, violence, and protesting in the masses; however, the entire revolution was enhanced and supported by the communication through twitter.

Are they violent?
amount of deaths
French Revolution-Terror: 14,000 people killed through guillotine, drowning, shootings
Egypt Revolution-included civil disobedience, civil resistance, demonstrations, riots, strike accounts. Deaths: at least 302; Injuries: up to 3,000 people; arrests: 1,000 people

How have people responded on twitter to my questions?
I asked one man if he had witnessed any deaths in the streets or the marching of the bloody flag and he answered "No :);" 
Then I asked TIMES for their most poignant photo from the revolution he gave me this: called Tears of Joy,29307,2044357_2235893,00.html

Lastly, I asked another man about what the streets looked like and he answered
"Egyptians in every street are celebrating & shouting in proud to be egyptians....We celebrate power and dignity."

France dealt with many economic problems after the french revolution, because each event of the war worsened their debt. Egypt is in chaos and has dug a large situation for themselves. If the succeeding president is not fully prepared to step up to his position than Egypt cannot be strengthened through this revelry. In the short term, I believe that Egypt is in for a long period of transition out of a low economic, political, and social time and into a liberal lifestyle. Even though the president has stepped down, the loss of Mubarak is only a small part of the entire revolution. In the long term, Egypt will stabilize with a new ruler, but hopefully things in the middle east will begin to stabilize altogether with the influence of war and poverty upon them. 

1 comment:

  1. What a great chance to connect with people in the midst of historic change. Nice work. Think about more ways to engage with the world. For example, it would be great to include interviews in your term paper.